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		<title>By: Augustine</title>
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		<description>On 9/23/07 John said, &quot;Which Christianty?
Whose Christianity? Certain not the radical teaching and great calling of Jesus of Nazareth which can be summed up thus: Love the Lord thy God with every fibre of ones being, and on that basis love all other beings as thy self, indeed al “other beings??? are thy self.

More like the murderous western tribal ego versus the equally murderous Islamic tribal ego and their “final??? long anticipated showdown.

John,
First, It would be the Christianity that the Bible describes - Jesus Christ, God incarnate, Third person of the Trinity, born of a virgin, lived a sinless life, died on the cross and rose again on the third as atonement for our sins. If one will believe He is the Son of the living God, and that He died for his/her sin, repent of his/her sin he/she will be saved from the wages of sin, death...eternal separation from God. 

Christian&#039;s, as I described above, have been reconciled to God our Creator through the sacrifice of Christ...we are justified by His righteousness, sancitfied by His Holy Spirit, and will be glorified at our death or upon the return of Christ.

Second, Don&#039;t know what translation you&#039;re using or if it&#039;s your own paraphrase, especially the &quot;indeed, &#039;al other&#039; are thy self.&quot; That is not in the text of any reliable translation. I am not my neighbors and my neighbors are not me. 

The quote is from Luke 10:27 (27 And he answered, &quot; YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND; AND YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.&quot; NASB). Jesus had just given his disciples charge to go and preach the good news of the gospel, and a Scribe (lawyer) asked Jesus as a test what he must do to inherit eternal life. Jesus asked him what the law said...above is what he replied. Jesus replied to him, v28 ...&quot;You have answered correctly; DO THIS AND YOU WILL LIVE.&quot; 
Here&#039;s what follows:
 29 But wishing to justify himself, he said to Jesus, &quot;And who is my neighbor?&quot; 
 
 30Jesus replied and said, &quot;A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among robbers, and they stripped him and beat him, and went away leaving him half dead. 
 
31&quot;And by chance a priest was going down on that road, and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side. 

 32&quot;Likewise a Levite also, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. 

 33&quot;But a (AK)Samaritan, who was on a journey, came upon him; and when he saw him, he felt compassion, 

 34and came to him and bandaged up his wounds, pouring oil and wine on them; and he put him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn and took care of him. 

 35&quot;On the next day he took out two [a]denarii and gave them to the innkeeper and said, &#039;Take care of him; and whatever more you spend, when I return I will repay you.&#039; 

 36&quot;Which of these three do you think proved to be a neighbor to the man who fell into the robbers&#039; hands?&quot; 

 37And he said, &quot;The one who showed mercy toward him.&quot; Then Jesus said to him, &quot;Go and do the same.&quot; 

You see, the good news is a message of grace through faith in Christ. The lawyer was contesting that, insinuating that righteous is was by the law, not just the Torah, but all their man-made additions to it. Note verse 29. Jews were forbidden by their law to associate with Samaritans. And what does Jesus do -Jesus challenged him on it by using a parable about a Samaritan. In the end Jesus tells him to &quot;go and do the same.&quot; The &quot;same&quot; what? Be nice to someone? No. Go show mercy. 

Jesus again addressing scribes and pharisee, citing Hosea 6:6 

Matthew 9:13 
  13&quot;But go and learn what this means: &#039;I DESIRE COMPASSION, AND NOT SACRIFICE,&#039; for I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners.&quot; (NASB)
Matt 12:7
  7&quot;But if you had known what this means, &#039;(A)I DESIRE COMPASSION, AND NOT A SACRIFICE,&#039; you would not have condemned the innocent. 


Third, please spare us the the moral equivalence. This is the problem with post-modern relativism and denying an objective Truth exists. You are at sea without a rudder. True followers of Christ do not espouse ANY dotrine or principle requiring Christians to kill others because they do not believe in Christ or to bring someone or a people under the domination of Christianity. That is foreign to the teachings of Christ.

And please don&#039;t bring up the crusades, you&#039;ll wander into something you know little about other that what you&#039;ve been fed. With that said, some pretty awful things have been done in the name of Christianity, and yes, during the crusades, but Christianity doesn&#039;t have a corner on that market. 

Look, John, I&#039;m not trying to be ugly, but have you really ever taken some time to honestly sit down and read the Bible. What you see happening is exactly what the Bible describes will happen. Read Romans 1, Matt 24-25. It&#039;s because of sin - sorry, man is not basically good. All evidence to the contrary. Man is basically evil, dead in sin, selfish to the core. That is why we need a Savior, to make us new creatures in Christ, a new heart and a living spirit. Only the living Christ can change a heart. Religion won&#039;t do it. Tp those who believe, He is our hope. To Christian&#039;s the Apostle John writes:

1 John 3:1-3
 1 See how great a love the Father has bestowed on us, that we would be called children of God; and such we are For this reason the world does not know us, because it did not know Him. 
 2 Beloved, now we are children of God, and it has not appeared as yet what we will be We know that when He appears, we will be like Him, because we will see Him just as He is. 
 3 And everyone who has this hope fixed on Him purifies himself, just as He is pure.

But, John, Christians also know that we will be hated as well: 

John 15:18 Jesus speaking 

18&quot;If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first.

Finally, Jesus Praying - John 17:3  
 3&quot;This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 9/23/07 John said, &#8220;Which Christianty?<br />
Whose Christianity? Certain not the radical teaching and great calling of Jesus of Nazareth which can be summed up thus: Love the Lord thy God with every fibre of ones being, and on that basis love all other beings as thy self, indeed al “other beings??? are thy self.</p>
<p>More like the murderous western tribal ego versus the equally murderous Islamic tribal ego and their “final??? long anticipated showdown.</p>
<p>John,<br />
First, It would be the Christianity that the Bible describes &#8211; Jesus Christ, God incarnate, Third person of the Trinity, born of a virgin, lived a sinless life, died on the cross and rose again on the third as atonement for our sins. If one will believe He is the Son of the living God, and that He died for his/her sin, repent of his/her sin he/she will be saved from the wages of sin, death&#8230;eternal separation from God. </p>
<p>Christian&#8217;s, as I described above, have been reconciled to God our Creator through the sacrifice of Christ&#8230;we are justified by His righteousness, sancitfied by His Holy Spirit, and will be glorified at our death or upon the return of Christ.</p>
<p>Second, Don&#8217;t know what translation you&#8217;re using or if it&#8217;s your own paraphrase, especially the &#8220;indeed, &#8216;al other&#8217; are thy self.&#8221; That is not in the text of any reliable translation. I am not my neighbors and my neighbors are not me. </p>
<p>The quote is from Luke 10:27 (27 And he answered, &#8221; YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND; AND YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.&#8221; NASB). Jesus had just given his disciples charge to go and preach the good news of the gospel, and a Scribe (lawyer) asked Jesus as a test what he must do to inherit eternal life. Jesus asked him what the law said&#8230;above is what he replied. Jesus replied to him, v28 &#8230;&#8221;You have answered correctly; DO THIS AND YOU WILL LIVE.&#8221;<br />
Here&#8217;s what follows:<br />
 29 But wishing to justify himself, he said to Jesus, &#8220;And who is my neighbor?&#8221; </p>
<p> 30Jesus replied and said, &#8220;A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among robbers, and they stripped him and beat him, and went away leaving him half dead. </p>
<p>31&#8243;And by chance a priest was going down on that road, and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side. </p>
<p> 32&#8243;Likewise a Levite also, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. </p>
<p> 33&#8243;But a (AK)Samaritan, who was on a journey, came upon him; and when he saw him, he felt compassion, </p>
<p> 34and came to him and bandaged up his wounds, pouring oil and wine on them; and he put him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn and took care of him. </p>
<p> 35&#8243;On the next day he took out two [a]denarii and gave them to the innkeeper and said, &#8216;Take care of him; and whatever more you spend, when I return I will repay you.&#8217; </p>
<p> 36&#8243;Which of these three do you think proved to be a neighbor to the man who fell into the robbers&#8217; hands?&#8221; </p>
<p> 37And he said, &#8220;The one who showed mercy toward him.&#8221; Then Jesus said to him, &#8220;Go and do the same.&#8221; </p>
<p>You see, the good news is a message of grace through faith in Christ. The lawyer was contesting that, insinuating that righteous is was by the law, not just the Torah, but all their man-made additions to it. Note verse 29. Jews were forbidden by their law to associate with Samaritans. And what does Jesus do -Jesus challenged him on it by using a parable about a Samaritan. In the end Jesus tells him to &#8220;go and do the same.&#8221; The &#8220;same&#8221; what? Be nice to someone? No. Go show mercy. </p>
<p>Jesus again addressing scribes and pharisee, citing Hosea 6:6 </p>
<p>Matthew 9:13<br />
  13&#8243;But go and learn what this means: &#8216;I DESIRE COMPASSION, AND NOT SACRIFICE,&#8217; for I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners.&#8221; (NASB)<br />
Matt 12:7<br />
  7&#8243;But if you had known what this means, &#8216;(A)I DESIRE COMPASSION, AND NOT A SACRIFICE,&#8217; you would not have condemned the innocent. </p>
<p>Third, please spare us the the moral equivalence. This is the problem with post-modern relativism and denying an objective Truth exists. You are at sea without a rudder. True followers of Christ do not espouse ANY dotrine or principle requiring Christians to kill others because they do not believe in Christ or to bring someone or a people under the domination of Christianity. That is foreign to the teachings of Christ.</p>
<p>And please don&#8217;t bring up the crusades, you&#8217;ll wander into something you know little about other that what you&#8217;ve been fed. With that said, some pretty awful things have been done in the name of Christianity, and yes, during the crusades, but Christianity doesn&#8217;t have a corner on that market. </p>
<p>Look, John, I&#8217;m not trying to be ugly, but have you really ever taken some time to honestly sit down and read the Bible. What you see happening is exactly what the Bible describes will happen. Read Romans 1, Matt 24-25. It&#8217;s because of sin &#8211; sorry, man is not basically good. All evidence to the contrary. Man is basically evil, dead in sin, selfish to the core. That is why we need a Savior, to make us new creatures in Christ, a new heart and a living spirit. Only the living Christ can change a heart. Religion won&#8217;t do it. Tp those who believe, He is our hope. To Christian&#8217;s the Apostle John writes:</p>
<p>1 John 3:1-3<br />
 1 See how great a love the Father has bestowed on us, that we would be called children of God; and such we are For this reason the world does not know us, because it did not know Him.<br />
 2 Beloved, now we are children of God, and it has not appeared as yet what we will be We know that when He appears, we will be like Him, because we will see Him just as He is.<br />
 3 And everyone who has this hope fixed on Him purifies himself, just as He is pure.</p>
<p>But, John, Christians also know that we will be hated as well: </p>
<p>John 15:18 Jesus speaking </p>
<p>18&#8243;If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first.</p>
<p>Finally, Jesus Praying &#8211; John 17:3<br />
 3&#8243;This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.</p>
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		<title>By: Iran Prez Ahmadinejad Sez: &#8220;There Are No Homosexuals in Iran&#8221; (And Why There Ain&#8217;t Any) &#171; BUUUUURRRRNING HOT</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iran Prez Ahmadinejad Sez: &#8220;There Are No Homosexuals in Iran&#8221; (And Why There Ain&#8217;t Any) &#171; BUUUUURRRRNING HOT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 08:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Cannot. Get. It. Utterly mind-boggling. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://awolcivilization.com/?p=51&#038;cpage=1#comment-172</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 01:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The total human world has become a kind of insane sporting event, at which people threaten one another and carry on in an insane manner, something like the gladiatorial contests in ancient Rome. It is madness. And TV largely creates and also plays to that insanity. Everywhere, people and groups look to get attention by getting themselves on TV, often through the exercise of rotten and demented violence, and through the exercise of an altogether aggravated disposition. The human world of nowtime is a lunatic asylum, a soap psychotic soap opera dramatised all over the planet. That absurd opera actually controls the destiny and experience of the total world of human beings. And that collective  world-psychosis is, in its root-disposition totally indifferent to human life, and to the world altogether.

Much talk of Christianity on these posts.
Which Christianty?
Whose Christianity?
Certain not the radical teaching and great calling of Jesus of Nazareth which can be summed up thus:

Love the Lord thy God with every fibre of ones being, and on that basis love all other beings as thy self, indeed al &quot;other beings&quot; are thy self.

More like the murderous western tribal ego versus the equally murderous Islamic tribal ego and their &quot;final&quot; long anticipated showdown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The total human world has become a kind of insane sporting event, at which people threaten one another and carry on in an insane manner, something like the gladiatorial contests in ancient Rome. It is madness. And TV largely creates and also plays to that insanity. Everywhere, people and groups look to get attention by getting themselves on TV, often through the exercise of rotten and demented violence, and through the exercise of an altogether aggravated disposition. The human world of nowtime is a lunatic asylum, a soap psychotic soap opera dramatised all over the planet. That absurd opera actually controls the destiny and experience of the total world of human beings. And that collective  world-psychosis is, in its root-disposition totally indifferent to human life, and to the world altogether.</p>
<p>Much talk of Christianity on these posts.<br />
Which Christianty?<br />
Whose Christianity?<br />
Certain not the radical teaching and great calling of Jesus of Nazareth which can be summed up thus:</p>
<p>Love the Lord thy God with every fibre of ones being, and on that basis love all other beings as thy self, indeed al &#8220;other beings&#8221; are thy self.</p>
<p>More like the murderous western tribal ego versus the equally murderous Islamic tribal ego and their &#8220;final&#8221; long anticipated showdown.</p>
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		<title>By: identity crisis</title>
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		<dc:creator>identity crisis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 00:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading &quot;The Unwashed Masses&quot;, really cleared a lot of the smokescreen away from the realities of the serious threats to &quot;our way of life&quot; as we knew it.Thanks! As to strange bedfellows, perhaps they are succeeding because most of our population are like sheep or even lemmings. We need to shake people up even more. Maybe a real educational push on the true meaning of JIHAD as a &quot;Holy War&quot; with all its ramifications would be a good start, and then follow up with the history of APPEASEMENT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading &#8220;The Unwashed Masses&#8221;, really cleared a lot of the smokescreen away from the realities of the serious threats to &#8220;our way of life&#8221; as we knew it.Thanks! As to strange bedfellows, perhaps they are succeeding because most of our population are like sheep or even lemmings. We need to shake people up even more. Maybe a real educational push on the true meaning of JIHAD as a &#8220;Holy War&#8221; with all its ramifications would be a good start, and then follow up with the history of APPEASEMENT.</p>
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		<title>By: Matisse</title>
		<link>http://awolcivilization.com/?p=51&#038;cpage=1#comment-169</link>
		<dc:creator>Matisse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 19:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well written,Mr.Wolf. Dean Coatsworth stated that Hitler as well would be invited at the University of Colombia to speak. Has anyone told him that Hitler is dead?</description>
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		<title>By: The Return Of Scipio &#187; Stupid Dead Men</title>
		<link>http://awolcivilization.com/?p=51&#038;cpage=1#comment-168</link>
		<dc:creator>The Return Of Scipio &#187; Stupid Dead Men</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 16:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Toa</title>
		<link>http://awolcivilization.com/?p=51&#038;cpage=1#comment-167</link>
		<dc:creator>Toa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 15:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve and Feeblemind nabbed most of my thunder, but another thought: both of these entities are committed to seizing power by any means necessary, and will use each other (and anyone else) in the same way an immoral man uses a naive woman- telling her what she wants to hear, all the while planning to toss her out like a used tissue after he has obtained his goal. Interestingly, the Left has been hobnobbing with various Muslim nations and factions for decades; while the Russians were locking their own Muslims up in work camps and asylums for holding to religion, they were offering generous aid to people like Egypt&#039;s Gamal Nasser and Iran&#039;s Ayatollah Khomeini, simply for the purpose of using them as sledge hammers against the West, and also for a little 3-letter word called &quot;oil&quot;. The International Communist Movement is about the only world faction which actually has much less scruples or ethics than the Islamofascist Movement- as Steve pointed out, a perfect fit for the Biblical description of Antichrist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve and Feeblemind nabbed most of my thunder, but another thought: both of these entities are committed to seizing power by any means necessary, and will use each other (and anyone else) in the same way an immoral man uses a naive woman- telling her what she wants to hear, all the while planning to toss her out like a used tissue after he has obtained his goal. Interestingly, the Left has been hobnobbing with various Muslim nations and factions for decades; while the Russians were locking their own Muslims up in work camps and asylums for holding to religion, they were offering generous aid to people like Egypt&#8217;s Gamal Nasser and Iran&#8217;s Ayatollah Khomeini, simply for the purpose of using them as sledge hammers against the West, and also for a little 3-letter word called &#8220;oil&#8221;. The International Communist Movement is about the only world faction which actually has much less scruples or ethics than the Islamofascist Movement- as Steve pointed out, a perfect fit for the Biblical description of Antichrist.</p>
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		<title>By: feeblemind</title>
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		<dc:creator>feeblemind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 04:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is an alliance between the Left ans Islam because they share a common enemy. The left&#039;s big mistake is thinking they can ultimately control the behavior of Islam after the common enemy is defeated.</description>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 18:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The alliance between Islam and Leftists cannot be explained in political terms. It is a common spirit of &quot;antichrist&quot; that unites these strange bedfellows. This was prophesied in the New Testament many years ago. People hate George Bush, not for his politics, but for his Christian faith.</description>
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